>>"What is an attack is your attempt to make a false misleading statement of a fairly straightforward observation.
The problem here is I take your statements that appear to contradict each other, and put the two together. I'm not making false and misleading statements—If I am, they certainly are much more accurate and true than calling multiple articles by various authors all false because I want to believe something different.
>>That you fail to comprehend the subject, fail to contribute any significant experience, fail to look at relevant references, fail to stay on topic, fail to make civil conversation is entirely your own choosing"
You could be right there I may not comprehend the subject as I live where the coldest pond temperature is 40 degrees or so and ice doesn't fall from the sky much, let alone accumulate on my pond. That is why I'm trying to learn something about the subject but you keep interjecting your nonsense—I read the articles cited. You for your part claim they are folly and provide one web site without direct links to establish your claims. (This is a very popular method used on political blogs by those who only want to believe what they want—personal attacks on the source of facts or those posting them, and provide little to establish their claim.)
My lack of contribution is based upon your narrow filter of what constitutes fact. The fact is our president is incompetent—you can choose to believe it or not—do you now understand the subjectivity of your "facts?" Let me explain it for you—your "facts" are limited by what you are willing to believe and take no other scientific method to verify—pondboss.com is not scientific method—again it is opinion of... folks posting their...opinions, observations, some may be very competent. Those who provide science you poo poo as incompetence and many other derogatory phrases, providing a failure to make civil conversation, implying your superiority over all...
"Relevant references" are those provided by Andy... No others excepted.
Fail to stay on topic? I keep reminding you this is about people trying to keep their fish from dying from winter cold conditions and you reply with what? There are many postings here recommending aeration and water circulation, and you opposing that. Others have provided scientific materials, you have provided opinion and a web site, and said go fish... And now in addition Andy's way.
"Fail to make civil conversation" Your probably right again here. I don't do well with folks who put themselves above all others for no apparent reason other than their ego. When you hop on your high horse and put others down I respond... Sorry that's just me.
*** Personally I'd be interested in what temperatures circulation should occur for the best health of the fish. Sounds like above 40 degrees circulation is OK? What about between 40 and 32, ice free?
Unfortunately this thread has been hijacked like a rock-less or rock-bottom pond discussion. Much based on... opinions. None the less, it's being read by many.... waiting to see where it heads next.