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Where is that? Your house?
I woke up this moring to my 400 gallon pond 75% empty, Weird deal, the pump broke a tab off where the protective cage mounts, and I guess went unnoticed for quite a while, anyway it rubbed the side of the liner and cut a 1" x 3/4" hole through the liner. So Off to the garden center this morning, a new 12 x 12 45 mil liner, 2000 gph pump, and heck I figured while I was there I grabbed a new water lily too. Total cost, $248, put the fish in a few large 128 quart ice chest with air stones in the shade, 6 hours later the pond is back up and running, the fish are doing great, o(and I didn't lose a single fish or the bacteria bed. Also figured out a way to keep that from happening again, the pump is now inside of a old plastic milk crate in the center of the pond, Can't rub a hole in the side again, and if for some reason something does happen I won't lose but 50% of the water next time. wheh, been a busy day! 
I think I'll go fishing Monday or Tuesday.
Ahhh, Sorry about that!No, I thought about them, but I don't want anything that might attract any predator birds. I still have my butterfly koi and that's the pride and joys of the yard! I'm placing this right behind the bedroom. With a big flashing sign that says warning owner shoots! LOL I'm a little concerned about the frogs though, we already sleep with ear plugs for the pug!
???? How did you know my name???
Larkin, I'm PondmaninFL in the chat room. We spoke the other night.
If not Rosey Reds, how about Shiners. You can buy them at a bait store.
No shiners, I do want something of intrest to watch. I'm looking for something that would be neat to see have little ones in the pond. I tend to like fish that no two are alike or have a neat appearance from above. As for the rosy reds, Not much to them and I've had them before. I'll probably end up with some type of live bearer or killie fish.
Pass me a lucky penny! Darn things ALWAYS get my favorite ones first! It's taken weeks for mine to come back out after an attack, Funny how they know! I hate the wire cover but so far the only casulty was a nice young male buulfrog that got caght in the edge netting.The Heron, aka, Birdzilla!
Mike S.
Spring Hill, FL
We call them pterodactyls here! Their wingspan is unbelievable!!!
We must have had a visit from one (or maybe the owl we hear loudly each night?) just a few days ago, because all of our fish are SPOOKED!!!
If the lilies are confined to soil filled pots use the tap to fill/refill. If you are allowing the lily roots into the water use the koi water.
I am using a lily pond shallow enough for the plants to rest on the bottom and easily reach the surface in the spring. I only move them to divide. You only need a few inches above the pot for ice in your area. I do not think that setting your pond a foot out of the ground will have a noticeable effect on the ice thickness. My pond is 18 or 20 inches deep. If you go deeper just lower the level in the spring. Raise it a few inches a day and the lilies will follow it up.
I think you question about stocking levels might be better put at what level to start off to ensure there are no misquotes. Not sure.
The light colored liner should have no noticeable effect on the water temperature. I think the water absorbs most of the UV light/heat from the sun in the first few inches. I think it would be interesting to see a pond with such a liner. The visible light will be reflected by the liner for increased lighting.
I have a raging fountain of water generated by an air blower. The lilies do fine about 6 feet from it. I do not like the idea of stagnant water. Keep it moving but keep it gentle.
HTH and HTH
the lilies will be in pots, bare bottom liner
The pond that my best lily's are growing in is 32" deep but I have the pot's lifted to about 8" under the water surface, the other pond the pots are about 4" under the surface and seem to be spreading out further than the ones that are planted deeper. that's why I wanted to try and find out a optimal depth for most tropicals. Freezing I'm not worried about, I winter the ones I have now over but I have been dropping them down to the 32" depth of the big pond during winter.
stocking level I'm trying to figure out a base line # of fish to get a balance for the plants and still control skeeters. LOL, Keep in mind I've always kept well stocked ponds with large Bio-filters, this is a little new to me as far as doing it right. I've done filter less ponds before but not on this scale, most I have done were just small containers of 30-40 gallons.
my big pond now has 5 tropical water lilies in it that are all blooming and growing well in water that is being turned over at a rate of 2.5 times a hour, (pretty strong current throughout the pond and doing well) I was looking at Maggo's lily pond and they are 100% still water. Again, I want to try this but want to do it right to get that equal balance between plants, fish, and snails.
I have a HATERED for this fish and do not want them in my yard at all again! I would rather not use Goldfish either as we have issues with Herons and Owls attacking the pond and I would like not to have to keep a wire net on this pond. I would like something that can stay year round, has enough color to be noticeable but not so much as it attracts predator birds, (ideas I have used or do use, sailfin Mollies, Rosy barbs, and am thinking about trying bluefin killie fish or elders guppies) I would like to hear other suggestions on fish choices that would benefit in mosquito control but would not harm the lily's. 
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