It takes a lifetime of learning Jerry. I just went through something similar with people in a group here in Michigan. I was called by someone to confirm IF someone had told me blah blah blah. I told the young man that he should get these people together who were talk, talk, talking and every body fight it out and when they were done, I'd mop up the blood, patch up the injured, wave at the ones leaving and hold down the fort with those who wanted to stay. Needless to say, I think he was a little shocked. Haven't heard from him since.