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Heliconia
« on: April 16, 2010, 04:36:46 PM »
Now that I have plenty of good compost, I am trying again. I did use Osmocoat and plenty of compost, Joyce would be pleased!

I got this and several angel's trumpets for 15.00 on Craig's List.  Close to home too.
Cheap 15 gal container at OSH's for 8.99  Not a thing of beauty, but very efficient.
Easy enough to lift when planted.
This is the compost this morning.  Nice dark and rich.  The secret?  Just turn that bugger often!
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Re: Heliconia
« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2010, 06:36:43 PM »
Do you know what kind of heliconia you bought?  To my knowledge there is only one variety that consistently blooms for SoCal.  If you walk through the tropical jungle area at The Huntington you will see them blooming there now.
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Re: Heliconia
« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2010, 10:30:53 PM »
I am guessing "Crab Claw"  I did look up the botanical name, but it escapes me now.
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Re: Heliconia
« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2010, 02:12:58 PM »
H. rostrata is commonly referred to as "lobster claw".  These do well in south Florida and down where Jonna lives but I have only heard of one flowering in SoCal.  Hopefully yours will be #2...   O0
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Re: Heliconia
« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2010, 03:36:24 PM »
Hopefully a super Micro climate may do it.
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Re: Heliconia
« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2010, 04:13:31 PM »
I just planted 5 different types of heliconia, some smaller and some over 25'.  Here are some of the blooms from the ones I planted earlier this year.







Some stand upright, some hang down.  The really tall variety I just got has solid red blooms that hang down.  I can't wait until it gets bigger and blooms.

They need a lot of heat, filtered light, and humidity plus they are not at all cold tolerant.  I think Calif falls down in the humidity and possibly the cold part.

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Re: Heliconia
« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2010, 05:36:01 PM »
Jonna they will get plenty of heat this Summer, water, but little humidity.
I got then from a girl in North hollywood.  She had them in the shade against a block wall.
Surrounded by Angel's Trumpet's.
Hopefully I can protect them a bit this winter.  Why do we keep trying to grow tropicals?
I have no answer, but just the challenge I guess. o(:-)
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Re: Heliconia
« Reply #7 on: April 18, 2010, 08:50:57 PM »
Those are beautiful Jonna. 
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Re: Heliconia
« Reply #8 on: April 18, 2010, 09:51:55 PM »
Thanks.  I just re-did my yard and added a lot more heliconia and ginger.  I got some of the variegated ones as well, I loved the leaves although i am not sure what the bloom will look like.  I think it is similar to a torch ginger.   

I think you can give them more humidity by putting then near water or planting them in good draining soil and keeping them wet.  I don't think they can get too much water unless it just stands on the roots.  I cut back the tree that was over my yard so mine will now get a lot more sun, mostly in the mornings though.  They may burn until they get thick enough to shade each other.   

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Re: Heliconia
« Reply #9 on: April 18, 2010, 10:20:05 PM »
I plan to keep it in the pot Jonna.  I can move it if we get a tough Winter.
I do see that plants love being near the pond.
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Re: Heliconia
« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2010, 10:14:48 PM »
I was at the spring garden show at South Coast Plaza today and my favorite vendor, a guy named Gary, was there with his offerings.  Gary specializes in plants from Central and South America.  He was selling various varieties of Heliconia rhizomes including H. rostrata and he had color photos of them when in bloom.  Another customer was admiring the photos and obviously considering buying some of the rhizomes.  Gary's partner was talking with the customer and allowing the customer to think that these Heleconia that came from southern Mexico would produce the beautiful inflorescence.  I couldn't allow the customer to be mislead and interjected that they likely would not produce the colorful inflorescence here as we did not have the necessary heat/humidity.  Gary's partner had a sheepish look on his face and admitted the same, adding that they are grown here for their tropical foliage.  Of course the photos were of the colorful inflorescence, not the foliage.

The customer wandered off and I told Gary's partner that I had a blooming Heliconia that I got from the Huntington Botanical Gardens.  As I was talking he interrupted me saying, "Ah yes, you have one from the higher elevations in South America where it's cooler, probably schneeana."  He was correct and I asked him if he knew that only the high elevation heliconias were the ones that would bloom here how come Gary wasn't selling those.  His response was that the flowers were not as attractive.  He was of course correct......but very unethical in my opinion. 
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Re: Heliconia
« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2010, 10:32:04 PM »
I guess it is buyer beware but really it is buyers anywhere should do their homework.  I feel the same way about those who sell roses down here.  Yes, they look good and have blooms in the nursery but they just came down from the highlands and after a summer here they will be consumed by mold and rust and bugs and will only look good in the winter. 


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Re: Heliconia
« Reply #12 on: April 23, 2010, 08:23:58 AM »
Too bad , but not unusual.  My favorite nursery sells Gunnera(sp) amazing plant but has no chance in the warm valleys. Zero, nada, zilch!  I bet one could make a list of stuff they sell that has no chance.  HD sells Coconut palms from time to time.  Again not a $%#$ chance. :'(
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