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Ponders in Mérida - more info and soon pics
« on: September 29, 2009, 10:08:01 AM »
Neo and Robie came over this morning and they brought me some wonderful gifts.  A sprouted Lotus!!!!  and another lotus seed.  OMG!  I hope I don't kill them, I've had such bad luck with lotus.  They divided the last lily for me, I had taken the babies off the other two when I was trimming them from the ant damage.  Neo brought me a water plant, I can't remember the name now.  I have to take a picture.  Also a miniature lily that I am going to pot this afternoon.  Oh, and miniature papyrus. 

We had a good time.  I took a short video for Howell, he said he wanted to hear the Yucatecan accents.  So, here you go Howell, Los Yucos.  We are saying a very Yucatecan phrase, mare niño, which means something like OMG!  At least I think that's what it means. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YeBco7Jc5g

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Re: Ponders in Mérida
« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2009, 10:36:37 AM »
Your accent is not american at all...I would've swear it was not you the one that said mare nino the first time......
OMG that video bright my day......Sorry I have not been posting here much due to the flu that I had just caught I feel not so energetic and school is making it worst...but this was awesome thanks Jonna.
Wish I could come down there sometime...
Scott I'll miss you buddy... :(

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Re: Ponders in Mérida
« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2009, 10:46:02 AM »
That was me!  I practiced a few times though  {:-P;;   Sorry you have the flu, take care of yourself and get well.  Rest, vitamins, all that plus some sunshine eh? 

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Re: Ponders in Mérida
« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2009, 11:23:29 AM »
Wow!  Now that's a ponders party!!  It's very nice that you have experienced ponders nearby to help you out.  Very nice gifts of plants!  Really cool to see the video of your pond and ponders!

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Re: Ponders in Mérida
« Reply #4 on: September 29, 2009, 12:27:28 PM »
That was fun seeing the video and hearing you all speaking Yucatecan  ;D. Hope you get well soon Howell........................chicken soup is what you need and maybe a shot of Tequila  @O@.

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Re: Ponders in Mérida
« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2009, 02:50:49 PM »
 lol lol lol lol
just heard the true accent Yucateco!

Video especial para Hoe!  O0

Jonna,
it was a very nice morning, I was going to ask you for some mollies, but seeing the situation i decided that it wasn't the right moment  ;)
I hope your lotus grow well, otherwise here I have more saved seed.


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Re: Ponders in Mérida
« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2009, 03:07:45 PM »
jonna  you are a  nice woman ¡¡¡
i had  a nice time ¡¡
and my news minililis   o(:-) o(:-)
i hope  grow  like yours ¡¡¡

saludos  ;D ;D    and nice  video ¡¡¡  ;D ;D
i love my turtle and pond ¡¡¡

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Re: Ponders in Mérida
« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2009, 03:15:56 PM »
ah! the other plant is Hydrocotyle bonariensis (redondita de agua)   ;D

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Re: Ponders in Mérida
« Reply #8 on: September 29, 2009, 04:32:42 PM »
gracias Neo y Robie.  y para el nombre de otra planta.  en ingles es pennywort - busque en wiki.  tenia que matar el angel  :'(   usé aceite de clavo.  él era apenas vivo.  triste.    pero el otra parte del vida, los otros angels desovó y tengo los huevos en aqua.  tengo que aprender como crecerlos  Neo?  quiere?  sabes como crecerlos?

What I hope I said in English:

Thanks Neo and Robie.  and for the name of the other plant, in english it is pennywort, I looked it up on Wiki.   I had to kill the angel fish.  I used clove oil.  He was barely alive.  sad.  but the other part of life, the other angel fish spawned and I have the eggs in water.  I need to learn how to grow them.  Neo? Do you want them?  Do you know how to raise them?

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Re: Ponders in Mérida
« Reply #9 on: September 29, 2009, 04:39:25 PM »
its a shame ¡¡  :P :P
but it was very bad ¡¡
i am sure it is now in the heaven for angels fishs ¡¡¡

 :) :)
i love my turtle and pond ¡¡¡

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Re: Ponders in Mérida
« Reply #10 on: September 29, 2009, 04:48:07 PM »
Lo pongo en español, a ver si Robie o Hoe lo puede traducir bien.

Antes que nada podrias mostrarnos fotos?  :D

Me imagino que en alguna planta habra desovado, tienes dos opciones dejarlos y que la naturaleza haga lo suyo, en este caso los mismos angeles cuidaran los huevos y se comeran a los defectuosos o amenazados.

Otra opcion es agarrar la planta u objeto donde desovaron y ponerlas en una pecera con suficiente aireacion, a los dos dias (creo) ya naceran los alevines, el problema de aqui seria la alimentacion y el cuidado de los pecesitos.

esto tambien podria ser la causa de la perdida de tus mollies, al tener un desove los angeles se vuelven territoriales y defenderan mucho sus huevecitos!

cuentanos donde desovo y como te diste cuenta!  :D

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Re: Ponders in Mérida
« Reply #11 on: September 29, 2009, 05:54:51 PM »
Entenderle, es mas facil leer que hablar.  Si, desovado en una hoja de cana pero ya estoy agrarrando la hoja y esta en un cubo.  Tengo una bomba de aire y lo pongo en el cubo tambien.  Para darles de comer, hay "brine shrimp" aqui en Merida?  camarones de sal, no se como se llama.    Leí que necesito darles de comer el 'brine shrimp' en 7 dias.  que piensas?   agrarré porque el par de angels estaba muy agresivo. 

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Re: Ponders in Mérida
« Reply #12 on: September 29, 2009, 06:10:30 PM »
Aqui en Mérida no conozco donde vendan Brine Shrimp (artemia), otra opcion es pulga de agua pero tambien es dificil conseguirla, lo unico que queda es darle alimento de pez bien molido casi en polvo y no cantidades excesivas para no contaminar el agua.

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Re: Ponders in Mérida
« Reply #13 on: September 29, 2009, 06:28:49 PM »
OK, esta mejor.  voy a tratarlo, si los huevos son fertile.

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Re: Ponders in Mérida
« Reply #14 on: September 29, 2009, 06:31:52 PM »
Esperemos que si sean fertiles!  O0 ya nos contaras!

te cuento que en los paraguas o papiros que nos diste, encontre varios huevecillos amarillos, seran de angeles o de que serán?  lo malo es que tanto tiempo fuera del agua ya no seran fertiles!

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Re: Ponders in Mérida
« Reply #15 on: September 29, 2009, 06:41:45 PM »
es posible.  estos son amarillos y pequeños, son muchos.  te dijo, si quieres estos son los tuyos, pues este par van a desovar otra vez.

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Re: Ponders in Mérida
« Reply #16 on: September 29, 2009, 07:01:55 PM »
Muchas gracias, espero que si salgan adelante!!  pero tambien espero que reproduzcan los mollies, si es posible claro   ::), me encantan los educados que estan!

por cierto... que bien hablas y entiendes el español escrito! vas mejorando muy bieeen!  congratulations!  O0

y los pequeños nenufares estan muy bien, tienen buenas raices!  :)


No le molesta a la gente que hable español en este foro? si es asi, intentare hablar ingles!  sorry!
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Re: Ponders in Mérida
« Reply #17 on: September 30, 2009, 06:54:18 AM »
That is the classic Mexican accent, as we Americans have traditionally known it.

When a fish spawns, the male is supposed to follow her, to fertilize the eggs.  If he died before she spawned, the eggs will be infertile.

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Re: Ponders in Mérida
« Reply #18 on: September 30, 2009, 10:44:43 AM »
The accent is, of course, hard for foreigners to hear but a Yucatecan accent is quite definite for Spanish speakers.  Just as in the English speaking world there are jokes and prejudices behind the way people react to different accents, I actually think there are more of those in Spanish speaking countries than in English but I'm not sure.  For one thing, there are more Spanish speaking countries, those Spaniards were good at colonizing or they were good sailors or good fighters.  At any rate, instead of killing as many locals as they could and enslaving the rest they went straight for the enslaving part but first they converted them to Catholicism and taught them Spanish.    I suppose that when you consider the Indian continent, the English were just as prolific.  Anyway, accents, we were talking about accents. 

Here in Mexico there are regional accents and they all have jokes and beliefs about the person attached to them.  Just as people in the US have jokes and beliefs about those with southern accents or New York accents.  Some are more pronounced accents, a Yucatecan is the equivalent of a deep south, Alabama accent.   A little slower cadence, dropping of certain sounds, the use of local phrases and words.  I'll leave it to the Mexicanos here to comment on the jokes and prejudices that come along with the accents.  For the forums info though, Howell would have a northern accent and it is not as pronounced as I recall, more along the lines of an Arizona accent if there even is such a thing.  Neo and Robie have Yucatecan accents and they joke between them much as northeners and southerners that are friends would in the US.

I forgot that Neo asked for some pictures so I'll find what I have from our visit.  Also, he was concerned that we were writing in Spanish and that it would bother the people here.  He does not really speak or write English and uses a translator but he is happy to do that.  I think we can use both languages, I like it when people switch back and forth in 2 languages.   

I'm off to look for pics.

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Re: Ponders in Mérida - more info and soon pics
« Reply #19 on: September 30, 2009, 11:02:45 AM »
I didn't have many pics.  Mimi was not feeling well so she wasn't up and taking pictures and I was too busy talking and looking at the plants.  Here's the few I have.

Neo and Robie separating the Foxfire


this is the Foxfire before separation with the leaves of the new plantlets showing


the little plants in some temporary homes


Robie working on separating them


I'm late for an appointment with my architect about re-doing the yard so I can't write more.  I'll get some pics of the mini lily they brought me and the lotus later. 


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Re: Ponders in Mérida - more info and soon pics
« Reply #20 on: October 01, 2009, 06:42:15 AM »
Thanks for the pics.

Redo the yard?  Didn't you just finish building the whole place??

I don't mind the exchanges in Spanish.  It's just a few threads, and I like our Mexican members to feel welcome here, so in the threads that pertain to them, Spanish is OK by me!  It's fun reading it, too. 

Some Mexican people up here in the States, you wouldn't even know they are from Mexico, by their accents.  When I ask, usually these people tell me they are from Mexico City.  That would be our equivelant of New York City.  New Yorkers have a definate, distinct accent quite different rom the rest of us U.S. citizens! 

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Re: Ponders in Mérida - more info and soon pics
« Reply #21 on: October 01, 2009, 08:33:19 AM »
I love accents...I think that makes us more unique...
I do not understand people from mexico city sometime they speak fast and kinda like if they were singing.
I know how to do tons of accents, people say I have a good ear.
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Re: Ponders in Mérida - more info and soon pics
« Reply #22 on: October 01, 2009, 10:08:47 AM »
I love accents...I think that makes us more unique...
I do not understand people from mexico city sometime they speak fast and kinda like if they were singing.
I know how to do tons of accents, people say I have a good ear.


Kinda like they were singing eh? Well I would like to hear some video on those accents Howell. We should all be sing talking...........it would be fun  :)
I love accents also. I often wonder how one would describe a west coast accent and I'm talking about everyday people not valley girls or off beat stuff  ::).

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Re: Ponders in Mérida - more info and soon pics
« Reply #23 on: October 01, 2009, 01:43:51 PM »
Most Spanish speakers describe the Mexico City accent as sing song like Howell did, also as very fast.  I can hear a little of that and I can hear a little of the difference in a Yucatecan accent but not all of it.  I couldn't listen to someone and say where they are from, I wish.  Shoot, I'm not even very good at doing that in English. 

There are a lot of Cubans here in Merida and they have a whole other accent as well. I have a Cuban-American friend here but she doesn't have a real Cuban accent so no one can figure out where she is from.  They know she is not Yuca but she doesn't sound like any of the usual accents.  She says her accent is probably a little Cuban and a little Mexican from growing up in Northern California.  She never heard it before but now when she talks to her father on the phone in Spanish she hears his Cuban accent and he says she sounds Mexican.

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Re: Ponders in Mérida - more info and soon pics
« Reply #24 on: October 01, 2009, 03:42:38 PM »
We in monclova and some other northern cities of this state kinda talk slow and rough that is what people from the south say, but since I have been living in lots of places now, I believe I have a standard mexican accent.
People from chihuahua do not make the ch sound they make it sound like sh..shihuahua or musho instead of mucho..
But if you are living some place you pretty much always get to adjust those accents to your common talking, I can do a hill billie accent very cool and I love it, I love hill billies..
There are some other accents even in the same city as for prepy people, normal people and naco people. Naco is a word use to describe somone that has no education and does not speak properly.
I know yucatecan and tabasquenos accent and all the people that lives on the coast line of mexico tend to speak a whole lot different than the ones from the center or even north.
A lot of africans settled in the coast lines, and lots of caucasians settled in the northern states, making the northern states with more caucasian population and a whole lot different way of talking than the ones in the center, south and coastlines.
Scott I'll miss you buddy... :(

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Re: Ponders in Mérida - more info and soon pics
« Reply #25 on: October 01, 2009, 04:05:33 PM »
This is all very interesting and I enjoy it immensely.............my brain is actually sucking in tidbits of information of worth-ability  :o

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Re: Ponders in Mérida - more info and soon pics
« Reply #26 on: October 01, 2009, 07:12:42 PM »
how are your angel's eggs?

a friend told me that to take them to the aquarium, the eggs should not leave the water, because they become infertile.

Hoe told me about mollies, you tell me when is the best time to go get some, i believe when you increase your population of mollies, thank you!


Hoe: good class of general culture!
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Re: Ponders in Mérida - more info and soon pics
« Reply #27 on: October 01, 2009, 08:48:10 PM »
The angel fish eggs all turned white so I put the leaf back in the pond and they ate the eggs.  I think I will leave them in the pond next time, I don't have the things I would need to keep them alive.

I have 2 pregnant Mollies, one black and white and one white, in the inside pond that you are welcome to.  They should give birth very soon now. 

Yes Howell, good lesson on culture and accents.  Could you really hear the Yucatecan accent in the video? 

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Re: Ponders in Mérida - more info and soon pics
« Reply #28 on: October 01, 2009, 09:16:02 PM »
Hahaha Yes I did hear the accents Jonna even though Robie and Neo do not have that much of a yucatecan accent there are others with a more pronounce one.
Have you ever listen to a tabasqueno..they have the funniest mexican accent ever... lol

JW you should come down here sometime and we will have a blast and I will teach you all types of accents down here.

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Re: Ponders in Mérida - more info and soon pics
« Reply #29 on: October 01, 2009, 09:54:12 PM »
You know, around here they blame everything bad on people from Tabasco.  In the Diario, it will say that such and such accident or robbery happened and the people involved had the aspecto of a Tabascan or they looked like a Tabascan.  I always found that odd, that every criminal act was done by someone from Tabasco.  When there are witnesses that is what they always seem to say, oh, they sounded or looked like they were from Tabasco.   Over in Quintana Roo, it seems that all criminals are from Chiapas.  Funny eh?

 

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