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Red stuff living in here.......
« on: February 19, 2010, 09:52:37 AM »
Remember my new water hawthorn(e)?  Well I put it in a big pot for quarantine before permanently locating it in koi pond.  I had rain water in the big pot and the plant came with all kinds of algae, stringy and furry.  Now after a week in qt there is a red film like substance on the surface of the water. 

What is this red stuff?  Is it bad?

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Re: Red stuff living in here.......
« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2010, 08:50:09 PM »
was there dirt on the plant??? or maybe a red/brown algae, or even dead algae
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Re: Red stuff living in here.......
« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2010, 09:33:00 PM »

Here's the best advice
I've seen regarding disinfecting plants.  I copied it from the Aquaria: Plants FAQ, by multiple authors, in January of 2000, and it still is good advice:

``How do I disinfect my plants?''
 
   New plants may have unwanted hitchers: snails, algae or disease.
   Disinfection can help reduce their transmission into the tank, and can
   be used to remove algae growths from established plants. Beware, there
   is always a danger of going too far and damaging the plant itself.
   Some popular methods:
     * A ten minute soak in potassium permangenate (pale purple) works
       well; it is available in dilute form from Jungle products as
       "Clear Water". Permangenate is particularly good for killing
       bacteria and pathogens.
     * A 2-day soak in 1 tbsp/gallon of alum (buy it at drug stores) is
       good for killing snails and their eggs.
     * If the plants are kept in a fish-free system for three weeks,
       parasites like ich and velvet will die without their fish hosts.
     * A soak in a 1:19 diluted bleach solution; 2 minutes for stem
       plants, 3 minutes for tougher plants. Make sure to remove all
       traces of bleach afterwards by rinsing with water and
       dechlorinator. This method can kill your plants, so use only as a
       last resort against hell algae.
       
   (See the ALGAE SECTION of the DISEASE FAQ for more algae-prevention
   tips, and the SNAIL SECTION of that same FAQ for snail prophylaxis.)
   
  ``Do I leave my new plants in the pot?''
 
   Many aquatic plants are now sold in potted rockwool. Plants with
   delicate roots, such as Cryptocoryne and Anubias, are usually best
   left in the rockwool wadding, especially if you have to move them
   around in the tank. Leaving them potted also can reduce transplant
   shock; otherwise you must be patient and allow the plants time to
   recover in their new substrate. You can bury the pots in your gravel
   to conceal them. Some folks like to cut away the plastic pot, and just
   leave the plant in the wadding so it can grow out into the substrate.
   

Snail Prophylactics

   To guard against unwanted snails, use a weak potassium permanganate
   solution. The Manual of Fish Health recommends a concentration of 10
   mg/l as a 10-minute bath as a general disenfectant for aquarium
   plants. Then rinse them in running water. This kills snail eggs and
   parasites and might guard against algae spores.
   
   Alum is also useful. Get "Alum U.S.P." at the drug store. Soak the
   plants in a gallon of water that has up to 10 teaspoons of Alum. The
   Alum kills microscopic bugs. Longer soaks (2-3 days) will kill snail
   eggs and/or snails.


Now, back to me.  I find that you have to completely submerge the plant in order to do the job right, so I use a 6 gallon bucket and this device that I fashioned out of the eggcate flourescent light lens material available at all the home improvement stores.





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Re: Red stuff living in here.......
« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2010, 07:47:11 AM »
It's been my experience that Koi (and even goldfish) love to eat water hawthorne.  I would put at least a small peice of that somewhere safe from the koi until you see what they do to it. 

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Re: Red stuff living in here.......
« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2010, 11:07:05 AM »
Thank you for the advice Johns, I will do just that, purchase me some potassium permangenate and at another time after the first soak the alum.

Teresa I will keep an eye on those rascals.  I'm glad you told me.  Still it will make DH happy and my lilies to me.  ;)

Marla, there is a pot of soil the plant is growing in.  After I do Johns step I hope to put the plant in a more stable pot to keep in the pond.

After the rain I had last night the red stuff is gone (washed out) but I know it will come back after a couple of days

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Re: Red stuff living in here.......
« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2010, 12:57:33 PM »
John thanks for the info O0, I copied and pasted it in my need to know pond folder, I always seem to forget the dilutions of things, must be age catching up with me or maybe my brain is already full ;)
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