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A question for those that use plant spikes.
« on: March 20, 2010, 11:49:47 AM »
Which one would work better, Jobe's for house plants or tomatoes? Or do you prefer another and for what reason?
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Re: A question for those that use plant spikes.
« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2010, 12:42:04 PM »
I am told the Tomato one by Jobe's is a good one for water plants.  I do use it, seems fine.
« Last Edit: March 20, 2010, 03:17:15 PM by Jerry »
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Re: A question for those that use plant spikes.
« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2010, 01:30:53 PM »
I use tomato spikes I find on sale.  It's the 8-24-8 fertilizer mix (sorry, don't know the technical terms) where the high middle number promotes flowering in lilies.  I use osmocote under the dirt of my potted waterlilies and add the spikes monthly for a boost.

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Re: A question for those that use plant spikes.
« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2010, 05:22:36 PM »
the tomatoe... the high middle number. I just ordered mine from amazon.. they have a great sale on them with free shipping with prime, which I have and you can get for 30 days free trial.

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Re: A question for those that use plant spikes.
« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2010, 07:21:37 PM »
I've been using the tomato spikes for 3 years.  I seem to get more blooms with them.   
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Re: A question for those that use plant spikes.
« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2010, 08:03:40 PM »
I've been using the tomato spikes the past 2 years that our pond has been up, but I have a very hard time finding them for sale around here.  I was lucky enough to find some in Christmas Tree Shops, and that's not even a nursery store.

Where are you all finding your tomato spikes?  WalMart here, Home Depot, and Lowes have not sold them since I started looking for them 2 years ago.
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Re: A question for those that use plant spikes.
« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2010, 08:09:54 PM »
I've seen them in Atwoods here.

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Re: A question for those that use plant spikes.
« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2010, 08:16:29 PM »
Tomato one by Jobe's .....sometimes they are hard to find, but well worth it.  Last year, after the growing season I was at a Walmart and there they were hanging on a end cap. I bought all they had.

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Re: A question for those that use plant spikes.
« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2010, 08:32:43 PM »
We don't have an Atwoods here unfortunately.

I, too, would buy all they had at WalMart IF mine bothered to carry them!
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Re: A question for those that use plant spikes.
« Reply #9 on: March 20, 2010, 08:50:53 PM »
Back in the day before I started using controlled release fertilizer pellets in water lilly and lotus pots i used to use Miracle Grow tree and shrub spikes (15-5-10) or Jobes general purpose spikes for all trees, shrubs, & evergreens (12-12-12).  I would use a set of limb loppers to cut the spikes into 1 to 2 inch chunks and put one chunk in the pot, depending on the size of the pot.  I found this to be a LOT cheaper than buying the puny little flower pot spikes.   As always, it is extremely important to encase any fertilizer in a submerged pot in clay.  Clay provides a molecular bond with the fertilizer nutrients, keeping them from the water column and helping to prevent green water.  The nutrients are still readily available to the roots of the plant as they enter the clay.  If your area does not have clay soil that is readily available, you can use Montmorillonite, or bentonite.  Often this is easily available by purchasing plain kitty litter: read the label-avoid products containing perfumes.  Calcium bentonite is preferable to sodium bentonite.  Simply mix a little water with the litter to form an elastic mix of gray clay.  Line the pot bottom with an inch thick layer, add whatever fertilizer you wish, then add another layer of the clay.  Pot your plant as per usual, add a top layer of large gravel or stones to keep your fish from rooting around in the pot, submerge the pot in a bucket of water to soak, then put into place in your pond.

Note:  At the time I was potting up anywhere from three to four hundred lilies and lotus every spring, so cost was a big factor.
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Re: A question for those that use plant spikes.
« Reply #10 on: March 20, 2010, 10:31:51 PM »
Wow Johns I buy those big clunky ones too.  I use a hammer to break them up.
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Re: A question for those that use plant spikes.
« Reply #11 on: March 21, 2010, 12:31:03 AM »
Sometime they'll sell them at the 99 cent stores.
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Re: A question for those that use plant spikes.
« Reply #12 on: March 21, 2010, 06:10:55 AM »
I think Fred's sells them here in town. Fred's is a small chain department store. Lynn, have you tried nurseries? If their are any small department stores or dollar stores, check them as well.
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Re: A question for those that use plant spikes.
« Reply #13 on: March 21, 2010, 10:04:47 AM »
Unfortunately we lost all our dollar stores but one and it's not very good at all.  And yes, last summer I checked all the nurseries - even the more expensive ones that I don't like to patronize, and not one had any tomato spikes.

I have started looking this year and even though many stores have their spring items out already, not a single tomato spike is to be found... yet! ;)

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Re: A question for those that use plant spikes.
« Reply #14 on: March 21, 2010, 11:54:13 AM »
I Googled it once, try that!
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Re: A question for those that use plant spikes.
« Reply #15 on: March 21, 2010, 01:07:50 PM »
I have been using the Jobes tomato spikes for several years with great success. I have only been able to find them at Ace hardware. Last year since I kept going back for more and sometimes they would be out I talked to the store manager and negotiated a discount for buying 25 packages which he ordered for me. I go through a lot since during the peak of the flowering season I add five spikes to each 14 gallon pot every two weeks. Its not unusual for me to have 6-8 blooms on each at the same time. Of course that requires me to wade to remove the all those spent blooms but the fish don't seem to mind the intrusion. In fact sometimes they get a little too friendly.

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Re: A question for those that use plant spikes.
« Reply #16 on: March 23, 2010, 12:40:41 PM »
Tomato spikes.
ACE Hardware and True Value Hardware stores are the only stores that carry them here. Walmart has had them once in a while but they don't keep them in stock. They'll get a small batch at the first of the season and they are usually gone before you can get any of them. Sutherlands Hardware also carries them but you wouldn't have them back east.
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Re: A question for those that use plant spikes.
« Reply #17 on: March 23, 2010, 01:12:49 PM »
Looks like I"m batting 1000 here - NOT!  :P You would think living in the suburbs here we would have at least one of those stores, but there isn't an ACE of True Value Hardware anywhere around her either - I was looking for one a few months ago actually.

I've recently befriended the manager of the pathetic gardening section of our teensy WalMart, so I will start badgering him about getting some tomato spikes in - one can hope, right? {:-P;;
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Re: A question for those that use plant spikes.
« Reply #18 on: March 23, 2010, 01:41:09 PM »
Use Google!!!  You can find anything!
They have them!!!
This was from Amazon!!!
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Re: A question for those that use plant spikes.
« Reply #19 on: March 23, 2010, 03:00:31 PM »
What about the Jobe's Organics Fertilizer Spikes for Vegetables? Our Lowe's has them. I'll have to check Ace Hardware for the tomato spikes.
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Re: A question for those that use plant spikes.
« Reply #20 on: March 23, 2010, 03:21:54 PM »
You can order them online from Ace Hardware but they are rather pricey that way.

I also found this site. Price is the same as what I pay here in town.
http://lawn-and-garden.hardwarestore.com/77-498-fertilizer-spikes.aspx

And it does look like Amazon is another good online source.
http://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=jobes+tomato+spikes&tag=googhydr-20&index=aps&hvadid=1098070241&ref=pd_sl_5chafp3xdf_b

Also go to Ebay and do a search for tomato spikes.

One year Lowe's had a different brand of tomato spikes. Came in a huge bag, more than twice the amount of Jobes but they've never had them since. Just the one year.:(
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Re: A question for those that use plant spikes.
« Reply #21 on: March 23, 2010, 05:00:36 PM »
What about the spikes from Laguna? I posted a question but never got a response.  I was just curious about what the opinion is.



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Re: A question for those that use plant spikes.
« Reply #22 on: March 24, 2010, 07:42:22 AM »
Here is some of the information from a website that sells them.
Directions for Fertilizer Spike:
•Push the spike in the soil until cap is just above the soil surface.
•After one year, discard the spike, as the fertilizer inside the spike no longer contain nutrients.
•Use one spike for 1 or 2 gallon planting baskets.
•Use two spikes for 3 gallon planting baskets.
•Use three spikes for 4.5 and 5 gallon planting baskets.
•Use four or more spikes for >5 gallon planting baskets.
Directions for Mini Fertilizer Spike:

•Push the spike in the soil until cap is just above the soil surface.
•After one year, discard the spike as the fertilizer inside the spike no longer contains nutrients.
•Use one or two Mini Spikes for small plants or 1/4 to 1 gallon planting baskets.
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Re: A question for those that use plant spikes.
« Reply #23 on: March 24, 2010, 08:30:47 AM »
Zoe, those numbers are all wrong according to what I'm reading. The middle number needs to be higher than the other two.
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Re: A question for those that use plant spikes.
« Reply #24 on: March 24, 2010, 10:00:59 AM »
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The middle number (Phospherous) needs to be higher to help promote blooming.
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Re: A question for those that use plant spikes.
« Reply #25 on: March 24, 2010, 12:52:42 PM »
That is what I was thinking also.

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Re: A question for those that use plant spikes.
« Reply #26 on: March 27, 2010, 10:03:26 AM »
I use the tomato spikes, I've gotten generic ones also if I can't find the jobes....wierd sometimes the middle # is 24, and sometimes 18
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Re: A question for those that use plant spikes.
« Reply #27 on: March 27, 2010, 06:29:34 PM »
Jobes changed their tomato spike formula from 6-24-6 to 6-18-6 sometime in 2008. I wish they would have left it alone. Someone I know called the manufacture and asked why. Their answer was to make the product more in line with industry standards. I think it was to save dollars. Also they are well aware that they are used by ponders.

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Re: A question for those that use plant spikes.
« Reply #28 on: March 27, 2010, 07:08:05 PM »
Jobe's actually did package the tomato spikes for pond plants at one time. Had a waterlily on the bag rather than the tomato.  I never did see them anywhere but they were on their website at one time.
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Re: A question for those that use plant spikes.
« Reply #29 on: March 30, 2010, 03:47:13 PM »
 @O@  My dad was able to buy some Jobes tomato spikes in Florida for me! O0  I asked him to look there, as I figured they have a longer growing season and would hopefully sell them more than around here. 

The question is... can I wait to use them til my parents return to NY on  April 22, or should I ask him to mail them to me?  I have noticed that the water lilies started sending up leaves when we were warm 2 weeks ago, but then we have had this awful very cold weather once again.  This weekend is supposed to be up near 80!  Back and forth, back and forth! :D
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