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T Mike help! The Egg Laying Pen, see a few pictures.
« on: June 22, 2010, 05:02:06 PM »
My wife was in the kitchen when she saw a RES walking away from the pond.  I was half asleep when she hollered! Took a few minutes to find him.  She was burrowing in some soft soil where we just re did the electrical.  Yes it was a female.  Egg laying?
I am working on making it escape proof as you had suggested
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Re: T Mike help!
« Reply #1 on: June 22, 2010, 05:11:08 PM »
Jerry, you should have let her be. She was making a nest and you would of had babies. @O@
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Re: T Mike help!
« Reply #2 on: June 22, 2010, 05:36:54 PM »
Maybe he did leave her alone. Imagine having babies!!!

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Re: T Mike help!
« Reply #3 on: June 22, 2010, 10:07:15 PM »
I suspected that, but could they get to the pond again?  lots of barriers designed to keep them in?
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Re: T Mike help!
« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2010, 08:06:37 AM »


   If she was diging then she was definitly geting ready to lay eggs. You could put her in an escape proof bottomless container over the exact spot that she wanted to lay in and put her in it and leave her alone.   I would bury a circle of 2 x 4 in welded wire fencing or you could just stake it down and bend the top inward so she can't climb out  A 3 or 4 ft dia should be enough.
  If she chose that spot then that's where she wants to lay and they are very particular about that and she will lay there every year.  Each of my turtles has their area that they lay in and all I have to do is keep an eye open for newly layed nests then dig them up and hatch them if I want to.  I hatched 30 last year and released them this spring.

  The bigger problem is that she figured out how to escape your pond and is in grave danger of being lost.

  I have no idea how much room you have but if you can you could fence off a small area of dirt and grass right next to the pond and allow free access to that area so they could get some land time and have a place to dig and lay eggs.  Even if you don't want baby turtles you definitly want your turtles to be able to do what they naturaly have to do which is find and build a nest and lay eggs. Imagine how distressing it must be to a mother turtle to not be able to make a nest for her babys and to have to lay them in the water or on a rock.  You can always destroy the egs later if you don't want to hatch them and she won't care at all.
 They feel a need to go up hill to lay probably to avoid flooding since they are river turtles and a sunny slight slope to the south or east seems to be prefered. So if you can put a mound of dirt to the north or northwest of the pond and fence it from shore to shore with an overhaning barier of rock or whatever you like the looks of and allow them access you will have a much happier turtle family.  Grass is fine and they can dig through a pretty thick sod but they prefer the grass to be not to thick. ocaisionaly mowed grass is fine.

   She will lay again about the same time next year and every year after that. She might even lay two batches a year.

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Re: T Mike help!
« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2010, 08:34:56 AM »
My thoughts too. maybe catch her and put her back where I found her, fenced of course.
I had another idea too.  Here it is.  I tried a similar thing once but no luck.
Of course if we got babies....then what?
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Re: T Mike help!
« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2010, 09:15:04 AM »


  Yea that's what I was thinking except more ornamental, like your drawing but more organic shaped and made out of rocks with a little overhang.

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Re: T Mike help!
« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2010, 02:28:48 PM »
Me too.  I will have it done in a few days.  Thanks!
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Re: T Mike help!
« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2010, 04:22:44 PM »
another drawing
My wife saw the female leave the pond agaib.  A miracle right there!  we let her alone and she wandered and then went back to the pond!
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Re: T Mike help! 2nd picture added.
« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2010, 04:57:28 PM »
I noticed a croc in you last picture Jerry.

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« Reply #10 on: June 23, 2010, 05:25:23 PM »
You two are just the sweetest guys. I got such a kick out of listening to you decide how to help a momma turtle accomplish what she was designed to do. Imagine if you had 30 babies, Jerry. You'd have to build a bigger pond.

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Re: T Mike help! 2nd picture added.
« Reply #11 on: June 23, 2010, 06:08:19 PM »
We all agree we should have built a bigger pond. Only Turtle Mike got it right!
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Re: T Mike help! 2nd picture added.
« Reply #12 on: June 24, 2010, 08:34:02 AM »


  I love it . It's so cool that you almost saw an egg laying !  And that she returned.  If your whole yard was properly fenced you could just let her do her thing.  I don't think a RES would try to dig under a solid fence at ground level any more than they would try to dig under a rock on land. why would they want to ?

  Great drawing !

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« Reply #13 on: June 24, 2010, 09:45:55 AM »
I am just enjoying the heck out of all these drawings O0 Some people just have talent :)

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« Reply #14 on: June 24, 2010, 11:18:02 AM »
Yeah, and the sign posts - like in MASH  lol

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Re: T Mike help! 2nd picture added.
« Reply #15 on: June 24, 2010, 12:55:35 PM »
Thanks for the compliments.  I was sure someone would say. "you have to much time on your hands!"
Got home at noon and only saw 3 adult turtles, so she may be out looking for a spot.  At least I now know she knows her way back!
I bought the mesh wire, sand and some re bar stakes.  I am embarrassed to tell you what I paid for sand! >:(-
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Re: T Mike help! Good NEWS! The escapee is back!
« Reply #16 on: June 25, 2010, 10:09:50 PM »
She was gone for 2 days! Good luck! A neighbor brought her home tonight. He put her in the pond! Not good.  I will catch her tomorrow (I Hope) and put her in a temporary set up.  I will get that pen built soon.  Hope she doesn't go on a walk about tonight!
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Re: T Mike help! 2nd picture added.
« Reply #17 on: June 26, 2010, 12:17:26 PM »


  Don't let that happen again ! I was worried about her last night I'm glad you found her before she got run over.

  Put her in the bath tub,  or something else filled with dirt in case she hasn't layed yet but I figure she has.

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« Reply #18 on: June 26, 2010, 01:01:17 PM »
Will catch her today with some luck.
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Re: T Mike help! 2nd picture added.
« Reply #19 on: June 26, 2010, 01:22:46 PM »


   I was about 11 ft down in my pond snorkling and came opon a big slider. She was so surprized to see me down there that I just reached out and grabed her and took her to the surface.

  Buy a snorkle and mask and you can hunt her down.

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Re: T Mike help! 2nd picture added.
« Reply #20 on: June 26, 2010, 03:17:43 PM »
Mike she eats out of my hand, almost.   I should not have a problem.
 I'd be snorkeling in 24 inches lol

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« Reply #21 on: June 26, 2010, 07:39:08 PM »
I was just walking in the garden and guess who I see?  There she was out again!
I rigged this up untill Monday when I will have a hand moving boulders and creating a haul out area for egg laying. Assuming she uses it.

Who knows? maybe she will lay her eggs here?
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« Reply #22 on: June 26, 2010, 08:45:09 PM »
I know she has no idea how much you are bothering to care for her but I hope she does a tiny bit. So nice.

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Re: T Mike help! lost n found, lost n found, lost n found, lost n found
« Reply #23 on: June 27, 2010, 09:04:25 AM »
If there were suitable habitats near by I'd let her go already.  She escapes so easily.  The others seem not to. Maybe they are content?
I will try to create a "lip" around the pond.  It will take time as well as a huge effort.
By the time I am done it may be moot!
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  I've never found a male out wandering. I'm not saying they don't but I find females out exploring and going from pond to pond all of the time.

  My first huge female used to go down to a neighbor’s pond about a half mile away for the summer and fall and then return for the winter and spring. I think she quit doing that once the male population got up to at least one mating age male.  They seem to disappear in the heat of summer but they are just aestivating.  They appear later covered in mud from the dark cool pond bottom.  Lots of turtles surface from the deepest part of the pond when I call them for food then I don't see them again until I feed them again.

  She is trying to find a perfect area to lay her eggs and they seem to have a need to go a certain distance from water and up hill a little. Probably to escape floods. They are river turtles.  If she is still searching then she has probably not layed yet or she layed in the garden.  A slight slope that is well drained is much preferred. They judge the quality of the soil and its temperature probably my scent and by feel. I have watched them finding a spot and they will walk a few feet and stop and hold their head high and look around and then lower their head to the ground and smell it a few times.   I think they are looking for a rich organic well drained soil smell and the right temperature with their feet and chin.  Since it's her first time searching for a nest site she is probably a little unsure of herself and trying to find the best spot she can because she hopes not only the spot will be good but she will want to return again and again to that spot thus limiting her vulnerable time on land in the future. My turtles haul out, go to their spots and then back to the water with no wandering. They just want to get the job done and go home.  She is holding her eggs as long as possible in hopes that she can find that perfect spot that will hatch her eggs for years. She can't hold them forever though and eventually she will lay them wherever she can but you can imagine that she at least won't feel as good about it. She may have layed in your garden. You can bet that she is making a map of everywhere she has been. A turtle never forgets. And they always stop to look around.

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Re: T Mike help! The Egg Laying Pen is done! Photo added
« Reply #25 on: June 28, 2010, 10:55:11 AM »
I re released her in the pen.  She went straight for the pond.  hopefully she will remember my cutom made pen and return instead of taking off for parts unknown.
if this doesn't do it.........adios Mrs. turtle!  I have done all I can.
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« Reply #26 on: June 28, 2010, 11:15:01 AM »
Cool corral!

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Re: T Mike help! The Egg Laying Pen is done! Photo added
« Reply #27 on: June 28, 2010, 11:17:18 AM »
Good job Jerry!   O0 If your Mrs. Turtle leaves I have 6 other Mrs. Turtles for your Mr. turtle to choose from  {:-P;;.  

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Re: T Mike help! The Egg Laying Pen is done! Photo added
« Reply #28 on: June 28, 2010, 12:35:09 PM »


  She will climb that fence in a minuet Jerry.  Bend the top over into the enclosure before she gets out again.

  Otherwise it looks beautyful !

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Re: T Mike help! The Egg Laying Pen is done! Photo added
« Reply #29 on: June 28, 2010, 02:17:10 PM »
hard to imagine.  It is so nice i hate to bend it! :'(

OK, I did. it now has a several inch overhang.

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