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Passion Vine Fruit
« on: July 01, 2010, 03:05:48 PM »
I've been wanting passion fruit growing in my garden for years.  I finally bought a 5 gallon Yellow Passion Fruit Vine that is suppose to bear fruit this year.  Still waiting.... {:-P;;
I do have another passion fruit vine I thought was just for flowers but....wowowowowow!  After about 5 years I have fruit on this one!  Does anyone have this particular vine?  What color will this fruit become?  And then what?
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Re: Passion Vine Fruit
« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2010, 03:37:35 PM »
The first passiflora you have is P. edulis and it is a species passiflora. It will bear either hard yellow oval fruit or it will get round purple fruit that will get wrinkly when it is fully ripe.
I had both varieties and gave a few seeds to MikeW. He grew the purple fruiting variety. I think it finally died but it produced tons of fruit per year.

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Re: Passion Vine Fruit
« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2010, 05:35:48 PM »
What does passion fruit taste like?   :)
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Re: Passion Vine Fruit
« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2010, 05:45:38 PM »
Quote from: Kittyzee on July 01, 2010, 05:35:48 PM
What does passion fruit taste like?   :)

Like passion! lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol
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Re: Passion Vine Fruit
« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2010, 05:48:40 PM »
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Re: Passion Vine Fruit
« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2010, 06:14:45 PM »
I do eat mine.  I squeeze the little berries out of the top and eat! Sweet and a bit tart.
Sean, can you I.D. mine?  Theresa in Atlanta sent it a few years ago.
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Re: Passion Vine Fruit
« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2010, 07:12:39 PM »
Jerry you have P. caerulea

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Re: Passion Vine Fruit
« Reply #7 on: July 01, 2010, 09:54:54 PM »
posilutely amazing!
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Re: Passion Vine Fruit
« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2010, 05:49:34 AM »
I forgot about the two passiflora vines I planted.  Before long they were climbing all over the fence.  Then came the fruit!  I didn't see it right away as it was tucked away in the thick vines. I was so excited, I was sure it would be yummy. In the morning I got my camera and ran out to take a picture of my prize. Ugh, darn puppy yanked it off the vine and took a big bite >:(-  Then swallowed the rest before I could catch him >:(- >:(- >:(-

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Re: Passion Vine Fruit
« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2010, 05:21:29 PM »
Sean is right the top flower is a yellow fruit variety, thanks.  I'm hoping the second photo the vine will produce a purple fruit. 

Funny Scott!  ;D It's all about the juice, which can be tart or sweet like berries.  I can't wait to see this fruit ripen! 
Got to find something to keep the darned squirrel from finding it like it has my tomatoes (thank goodness there is enough to share!).  Feel sorry for yours, Tootsie.
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Re: Passion Vine Fruit
« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2010, 05:33:29 PM »
Hi Annette,

I am not sure what your second one is but I am assuming, unfortunately it will get orange soft fruit like P. caerulea which Jerry has.
There are virtually hundreds of species end even more hybrids of Passiflora
Jerry, your variety is not known for fruit production, the arils are small and they do not create a lot of juice like the first one that Annette has called edulis.
Another great fruit producer is the banana passiflora's or Tacsonias. They get long banana shaped fruit with lots of juice that is generally sweet.

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Re: Passion Vine Fruit
« Reply #11 on: July 02, 2010, 06:58:56 PM »
I get a lot of fruit, I thought.  Perhaps it's relative.
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Re: Passion Vine Fruit
« Reply #12 on: July 02, 2010, 07:17:16 PM »
Hi Annette,
Your second vine looks like my Lavender Lady. So far it hasn't produced any fruit, but is a prolific bloomer. I have a couple others that fruit.

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Re: Passion Vine Fruit
« Reply #13 on: July 02, 2010, 08:29:39 PM »
Hey Maryvonne, the purple flowered passion vine was originally purchased for the "crazy" flower.  Since then I have found so many different kinds of "crazy " flowered passion vines.  Absolutely love the frillies.  Fruit on the purple passion flower is just a surprising bonus!  @O@

Sean, you know way too much about the variety of passion fruit than a Vancouverite should know  :D  But I do appreciate your knowledge!  Thanks!
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Re: Passion Vine Fruit
« Reply #14 on: July 03, 2010, 08:37:11 AM »
Hi Jerry, by fruit production on caerulea, I meant the amount of juice inside each fruit, Caerulea fruit is generally quite empty and the aril and juice are red.
Annette, I have grown dozens of variety of Passiflora and I am as much of a nut over them as I am tropical waterlilies. The nice part is many of the Passiflora varieties are quite hardy in Vancouver. Remember where I am it is Zone 8B.

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Re: Passion Vine Fruit
« Reply #15 on: July 03, 2010, 02:27:07 PM »
Annette:  I can't speak for the yellow variety, as the variety I have is 'Frederick' which is a heavy producer of fruit.  Frederick's fruit turns purple and remains pretty hard when ripe.  With Frederick it is best to just wait for the fruit to drop.  Dropping doesn’t harm the fruit.  The outside is merely a casing that you toss into the compost pile after scooping out the pulp.  When the fruit starts to wrinkle it is at its sweetest, although still tart.  It will keep for a few more weeks and become more wrinkled but the liquid inside will dry out.  I cut the fruit in half and use a spoon to scoop out the pulp.  The fetching Mrs. Mikey eats it right out of the halved fruit but it is too tart for my taste eating it that way. 

The seeds are hard but quite chewable.  They pop when bit upon.  I have made passion fruit punch, sangria and ice cream from our fruit.  The flavor is intense and it doesn't take much fruit to get the flavor.  I don't like the seeds in the ice cream I make but the other members of the family like the seeds because they like the crunch.  When I make the punch and the sangria I put the pulp in our blender along with whatever liquid I'm using and bust up the seeds, which also separates them from the pulp.  The finely chopped seeds quickly separate and sink to the bottom of the container and thus the liquid can be poured out leaving the seeds behind.

Frederick's flower:


Fruit on the vine:


Ripe fruit off the vine:


Cut in half.  As you can see there is not a lot of liquid and the pulp is mixed in with and attached to the seeds.  This is how the Fetching One likes to eat them….


As I recall I use perhaps 6-8 passion fruits when I make a quart of ice cream.

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Re: Passion Vine Fruit
« Reply #16 on: July 03, 2010, 02:30:47 PM »
Wecome home Mike! Missed you. :welcome:
 Sean is correct, little juice on mine.  The fruit looks much different then yours.
I like yours better! :'(
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Re: Passion Vine Fruit
« Reply #17 on: July 03, 2010, 04:05:43 PM »
I must have Fredrick, my blossoms and fruit looks just like that.  Mine hasn't begun flowering yet this year. I have it in a pot because I was worried about it spreading, but I'm wondering if that is stunting the fruit production.  It's over 15' tall but quite leggy.  Anyone know?
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Re: Passion Vine Fruit
« Reply #18 on: July 04, 2010, 01:04:53 PM »
This is now the 3rd year I have had my Frederick in a pot and for the same concerns as you.  The first year it produced perhaps a dozen or so fruit.  Last year it went crazy.  The vine produced an amazing amount of fruit.  However, toward the end of the season I realized that even though I had the pot on clay bricks so that the drainage holes would not make contact with the soil I could clearly see a large root that had exited a drainage hole and was in my soil.  Fearing the invasive nature of some varieties of passion fruit vines I cut the root.

I neglected the vine this spring and only recently gave it some fertilizer.  Thus far the vine has not produced fruit yet and does not appear as vigorous as before.  It just now appears to be starting to grow again.  I tend to believe the amazing showing of last year was due to that root escaping.  Only time will tell.

I would like to find information on studies of passion fruit vines that indicate which varieties are invasive and which varieties are not invasive.  My soil is sandy silt and it is very easy for invasive plants to spread.  I had P. incarnata 'Incense' in the ground and that was a horrible mistake.  I ripped it out a few years ago yet I still have it suckering up to 25' away from where it was planted.  However, I also have a plant traded to me as P. alto-caerulea and it too is in the ground and after 8 years or so it still has not suckered up elsewhere.  If I trusted Frederick I would put it into the ground.....and if it doesn't perk up I likely will try it in the ground.
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Re: Passion Vine Fruit
« Reply #19 on: July 05, 2010, 03:48:57 PM »
Missed you too, Mikey!  It's all your fault I've gone gaga over the passion vine fruit!  I love the photos since they explain a whole lot on what passion fruit looks like when opened.  O0  So most of mine are in the ground...will I be sorry later?  The only one I have with fruit now is in a small pot for the past 5+ years and not likely to move anywhere.

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Re: Passion Vine Fruit
« Reply #20 on: July 05, 2010, 03:54:14 PM »
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The nice part is many of the Passiflora varieties are quite hardy in Vancouver. Remember where I am it is Zone 8B.

Wow Sean!  8B!  Is that Fahrenheit or Celsius?  ;D  I know Vancouver has beautiful year round weather but where do you put the igloos?  :D :D :D lol  I know, bad bad girl.  I grew up in Canada on the very east coast and most people here always ask if I lived in an igloo  ;D  when your's are flowering you have to share photos with us!  I'll be good.  ;)
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Re: Passion Vine Fruit
« Reply #21 on: July 06, 2010, 04:41:36 PM »
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So most of mine are in the ground...will I be sorry later?
  If I recall Annette, you have clay soil and that should make it more difficult for an invasive variety to spread.  I considered using a root barrier but even a 2' deep barrier didn't stop my black bamboo from going under it.....

I tried moving my potted Frederick yesterday and it wouldn't budge......which means roots have made their way through the other drainage holes past the clay bricks and into the soil......  :P
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Re: Passion Vine Fruit
« Reply #22 on: July 07, 2010, 11:47:33 AM »
Glad to know invasive may be more controllable in clay soil plus they do not get premium care from me  :P  Too bad about your beautiful black bamboo.  I have mine in a large container and it's pretty bushy but skinny bamboo.
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Re: Passion Vine Fruit
« Reply #23 on: July 08, 2010, 05:13:35 PM »
Hi Mikey,

P. edulis var. Frederick was selected for it's huge fruit production and it is not one that sends up runners from the roots like many others in the genus. It is still the species P. edulis so Holldoll, unless you purchased yours as the variety Frederick, you likely just have the species edulis. Frederick can only be cloned by cuttings and it's seed can only be referred to as P. edulis as the seed may not have the vigor of the parent. P. edulis var. Frederick is quite rare but commonly sought after for it's huge fruit yields. The seedling that MikeW had produced so much fruit it was a hindrance at times running down the street from his back stairwell. His got massive as a ground planted specimen.

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Re: Passion Vine Fruit
« Reply #24 on: July 08, 2010, 11:05:15 PM »
Thanks Sean for the information on Frederick.  I feel better now and won't be so paranoid about it suckering everywhere.  I may even go out and pile up some soil over the clay bricks to encourage those roots...... 
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