Still more of an update, taking break from water lily massive overhaul... my better half posted where we took the big pond apart and I get to do 'chopNtrim' the seriously overgrown chunks we have back into semi-tame lilies. The 1000 petals, Pink ribbons and Lily Pons went into my greenhouse in cut off 'lifts' to winter and are all with me yet I think. Thank you, if that one is the Lily Pons it's doing wonderfully... have to feel around the pot and see if the ID is still with it.