Lawanna, Thanks so much for your response. Yes the lilies I recieved last year were more like plantlets then tubers, really had to baby them and even then they didn't do to much. I love playing with dirt plants and seeing which grows well in the pond. Having high PH I've found even some aquatics tend not to like my pond. However my chocolate mint, that should be an annual here thrives in the pond and returns yearly. For quick color in the spring, I pop some violets in the rocks in the pond (after rinsing roots).