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Viviparous Lilies
« on: June 08, 2007, 07:31:26 PM »
Ok, I know several board members were not overly fond of vivips. I however think if God had not created them it would have been a great genetic invention.

All summer long as I trim pads from lilies I grow out certain vivips that I need more lilies of those varieties. If I am careful and separate them I will put them into individual buckets to grow out.

When I am in a hurry though which is much of the time, I just cut them and throw them into 2 piles... vivips and non vivips. The non vivips go into the compost pile.

The vivips go into a kiddie swimming pool. There is no dirt, no soil just water and decaying leaves. It looks pretty yucky until the plants really start breaking down.

Over the winter, many of the vivips that had started growing turn into nice little tubers.

With the 90+ degree temps, I noticed flowers starting to bloom a few weeks ago. I took a pic early 2 days ago when there were a number of flowers up.

I pulled up about 10 lilies that were blooming this evening. I had to tear out numerous other small plants and throw them back into the pool.

I was going to pot them up in dixie cups but 4 of them had root systems so large that the roots would not fit into an 18 oz. dixie cup.

So if you like your lilies and you have some vivips, do yourself a favor and toss them somewhere to try and develop into something for you.

I use buckets and even a fish tank with a heater and lights to quickly develop many of mine but as you can easily see, the lazy man's way works too if you can be patient.

Tim
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Re: Viviparous Lilies
« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2007, 07:34:42 PM »
If you noticed from the closeup pics above, each lily has 4 or more flowers and that was just feeding off of the decayed plant material which had been heavily fed when it was still part of a plant.

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Re: Viviparous Lilies
« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2007, 08:31:02 PM »
That's pretty amazing. I can't get them growing or blooming that quickly.

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Re: Viviparous Lilies
« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2007, 09:13:33 AM »
I bet your Houston heat is making a huge difference in getting those vip pads to grow so quickly.  Cool pics!  I really like viviparous lilies  O0
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Re: Viviparous Lilies
« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2007, 11:40:59 AM »
 {:-P;; :'( I don't have one.

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Re: Viviparous Lilies
« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2007, 07:52:40 PM »
Maryvonne, it is not the quickest way but it does work. I used to put the into a 20 gallon tub. When I separate then specifically by variety I put them into basically 2 gallon black buckets with water.
The black gets the water temps up over 100 degrees during the summer here.

Kat, its funny, the water on the summer is hotter than a shower but when you reach down into the decayed bottom the water is about 70 degrees.

Jen, you have got to get one. If you buy one and you treat it right you will most likely have extras by the end of the season and that does not even count getting it to tuber over the winter which many times is another plus.

It is the one of the easiest way to propagate lilies. The plants you grow from vivips are clones of the parent and worthy of keeping it's name as opposed to seedlings that must go as mutts.
If they are different enough from what else is out there and named, they could get their own name.

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Re: Viviparous Lilies
« Reply #6 on: June 10, 2007, 12:02:46 AM »
Do vivips only occur in tropicals or hardys?  Or in both?

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Re: Viviparous Lilies
« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2007, 04:38:39 AM »
Tropicals mainly. But not all tropicals.
If you look at the comprehensive waterlily list on the victoria site it lets you know if a lily is a tropical, hardy, a day bloomer, a night bloomer and whether it is a vip or not.
http://www.victoria-adventure.org/waterlilies/names/names_a_z.htm
This is about a 2Mb page so open it in a new window and go get something to eat or drink if you are on dial up. You'll need to be patient.

For tropical vips you are looking for the designation at the beginning, right after the name in bold of TDV.

There are only a few hardy vips. They are all thought to be the progeny of Colonel A.J.Welch. Unfortunately this seems to be more of a lucky happenstance than something you can count on.
Hardy vips actually are said to produce a new plant from a spent flower instead of from the pad like a tropical vip.

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Re: Viviparous Lilies
« Reply #8 on: June 10, 2007, 09:29:35 PM »
Thanks Tim, I learn a little every time I come here.  @O@

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Re: Viviparous Lilies
« Reply #9 on: June 10, 2007, 09:40:24 PM »
Thanks for the lesson Tim  O0
It looks so easy when you do it!!

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Re: Viviparous Lilies
« Reply #10 on: June 11, 2007, 06:01:29 AM »
Thanks Jonna and Annette.
Sean has a good tutorial here on the site...
http://www.americanponders.com/forum/index.php?topic=137.0
This includes some pix so you can see what a Vivip pad looks like.

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Re: Viviparous Lilies
« Reply #11 on: June 11, 2007, 01:23:26 PM »
thanks for sending us to Sean's tutorial.  Good stuff to learn.  @O@

 

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