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Thread Removed! BUT it's became a very good one!!!! enjoy
« on: December 09, 2008, 12:01:59 PM »
In the interest of keeping this site civil and not letting it go the way of some other  sites, I have closed this thread. {-)
Thanks for your support
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« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2008, 12:33:15 PM »
Nooooooooo, I love that thread, but well let's start talking about food again..........
How about pizza? ;D
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« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2008, 02:24:45 PM »
I thought you found it hurtful?  I did.
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« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2008, 03:00:53 PM »
Oh well, not really. food is never hurtful.
What I mean was, it was joke about that thread, I loved it because we talked about food, and the other instance was fine is not something that takes my sleep away..you know.
Did you really think that?
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« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2008, 05:09:07 PM »
My sleep, not yours.  I was up half the night! I don't need that and question why I bother.


Start a food theread by all means.

How about my favorite   "Rhubarb Pie!"
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« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2008, 05:18:15 PM »
Jerry do you raise rhubarb? I once had a rather large clump but we have sandy soil and often have termites. Yup, they began to devour the inside of the stalks. So I dug it up and gave it away. My DH loves rhubarb pie and so do I as long as it is sweetened well enough. I remember as a kid having a huge lot of rhubarb growing up by the barn bridge. I was maybe 5 and would go pick the nice red stalks AND EAT it right there. I don't know how I did it.

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« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2008, 05:21:31 PM »
Well, even though I have no idea what that is, it looks delicious. 8-)~

Have any of you tried the hoggie goie or something like that, its a pizza dessert from "pizza inn", it has barbarian cheese in it. and let me tell you that is the best dessert I have ever had.....
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« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2008, 05:47:51 PM »

Have any of you tried the hoggie goie or something like that, its a pizza dessert from "pizza inn", it has barbarian cheese in it.

Barbarian cheese... ? Sounds like I need to try that!

Jerry, I thought the thread would have been fine if it had stuck with it's original topic. It's pretty telling (and disturbing) that the thread went off-topic immediately. Makes me sad that nobody wants or cares to remember 12/7/41. I don't know how it became an immigration or holiday issue. It was simply a proper and appropriate remembrance of the infamous day that brought us into WW II. It is a day that deserves a little respect. 2500 dead Americans, and nobody seemed to care. 

If you dumb it down too much, nobody will really learn anything.
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« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2008, 06:10:35 PM »
Karen J. Trust me you gotta try that.....by the way did you find the history channel special?
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« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2008, 06:17:38 PM »
You mean Bavarian Cheese? :)
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« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2008, 06:42:52 PM »
Howell, that Barbarian cheese is served on the end of a lance that is held by a guy wearing metal clothing and riding on a horse. Just teasing, guy.

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« Reply #11 on: December 09, 2008, 06:54:42 PM »
LOL
Sorry
Well then I agree joyce.....then that is why my V wasn't fitting the barbarian lol
Are not they called knights.....  {:-P;;
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« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2008, 10:33:56 PM »
I agree Karen, but at the risk of starting it all over again I will refrain form comment.  Just this one  LOL
The LA Times as well as The Chicago tribune are close to bankruptcy.  Part of the reason i think is that they are so anti traditions like observing Dec 7 th.

They love to talk about what a bad country we are.  With a new President I hope that will change. We all wish him well.  The far left will be all over him in the near future.  He simply can't meet their demands. Watch and see.

Esther, no to the rhubarb, had one batch that was ok, but it is a cool climate plant.
I love the tartness of it.
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« Reply #13 on: December 10, 2008, 06:15:31 AM »
I dont get rhubarb at all.  My father loved rhubarb pie, but then again he also liked gooseberry pie, both of which are not even considered food by me.  The chemical responsible for the flavor of rhubarb is oxalic acid which is actually a fatal poison in sufficient amounts.  Ingestion of  rhubarb leaves will kill you.  Why humans would want to consume anything as unappetizing as rhubarb (or, for that matter, haggis) is completely beyond me.

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« Reply #14 on: December 10, 2008, 06:45:45 AM »
I dont get rhubarb at all.  My father loved rhubarb pie, but then again he also liked gooseberry pie, both of which are not even considered food by me.  The chemical responsible for the flavor of rhubarb is oxalic acid which is actually a fatal poison in sufficient amounts.  Ingestion of  rhubarb leaves will kill you.  Why humans would want to consume anything as unappetizing as rhubarb (or, for that matter, haggis) is completely beyond me.
LOL Johns I've told my MIL the same thing about Poke salad for years....whe you have to boil something twice then cook it in grease and it still gives you the runs---why eat it  :D.....
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« Reply #15 on: December 10, 2008, 06:58:08 AM »
Johns, what about Elderberry pie? My mother used to spend hours/days tramping through roadside ditches and swamps picking those tiny things and cleaning the stems off them. She would gather enough to even can them when I was a kid. When my DH and I were dating about 25 years ago, she invited us for dinner and served an elderberry pie. They taste fine but the berries are almost all seed, a bit of skin and a bit of flesh. So when you eat it, you probably won't chew it, just mush it with your tongue. Now when a conversation comes up about the foods that people don't like, he always mentions my mom's BB pie. LOL

I think there are newer versions of rhubarb that aren't quite so sour. Another thing that some do when making a rhubarb pie is to use about half fresh strawberries and that is good too.

Do we have gooseberries in Michigan? I've heard of them but don't know what they are.

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« Reply #16 on: December 10, 2008, 07:33:33 AM »
John, you've obviously never had good rhubarb before.   :no:

My dad grew it in big rows in the veggie garden, and made us rhubarb mash all the time. (sugar added of course)
It was DEEEElicious. Not only that, rhubarb is a cool looking plant, especially the blooms!  8)

Haggis is basically sausage. So if you like sausage, you'll like a good haggis.  :)
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« Reply #17 on: December 10, 2008, 07:46:51 AM »
I dont get rhubarb at all.  My father loved rhubarb pie, but then again he also liked gooseberry pie, both of which are not even considered food by me.  The chemical responsible for the flavor of rhubarb is oxalic acid which is actually a fatal poison in sufficient amounts.  Ingestion of  rhubarb leaves will kill you.  Why humans would want to consume anything as unappetizing as rhubarb (or, for that matter, haggis) is completely beyond me.

While I agree with Joyce in that it is a beautiful plant for the garden, Rhubarb is not food.

But Haggis? Have you ever tried it? After seeing Anthony Bourdain's "No Reservations" episode about it, Haggis is the one food I would like to eat before I die.
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« Reply #18 on: December 10, 2008, 07:56:26 AM »
Yes raw Rhubarb leaves are toxic.
I spent a few days at John Woodens Basketball Camp in 1981  We slept in the dorms at Pepperdine College.  my wife said I just made a Rhubarb pie!  I snuck out to drive home (35 minutes) Coach Wooden saw me and asked why I was leaving.  I told him   He said "bring me a slice!"
We have been friends ever since. He is now 96!

Re the Toxic LOL thread, I asked Sean if it can be restored. Many feel we should let it all hang out!
The fact that I was so offended by it I knew others were ( many, many advised me as well)
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« Reply #19 on: December 10, 2008, 08:05:10 AM »
Rhubarb Pie is NOT made from the leaves!  :no:

ONLY the stems are used.   8)
They are chopped up into 1" long pieces, sugar added, simmered until soft and used as pie filling or as a sauce like cranberry sauce.

Turning your nose up at food you've never tried is, well, IMHO, not very open-minded or adult. :no:

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« Reply #20 on: December 10, 2008, 08:23:30 AM »
Oh I'm not turning up my nose at Rhubarb. In fact, I harvested so much that I still have some in my freezer. I admit that I do eat some, occasionally. That's because I'm weak and I like it.
However, Rhubarb is not food. It contains no (or trace) protein or fat, which are essential macronutrients. It is very low in vitamins, micronutrients, and minerals. It is high in oxalic acid and other phytotoxins.

It may be edible, but it is not food.
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« Reply #21 on: December 10, 2008, 08:38:22 AM »
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It may be edible, but it is not food.
Kind of like chewing on gum.  No value and a waste of chewing time that would be better spent working on a T-bone  @O@  :D
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« Reply #22 on: December 10, 2008, 08:45:33 AM »
Kind of like chewing on gum.  No value and a waste of chewing time that would be better spent working on a T-bone  @O@  :D
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« Reply #23 on: December 10, 2008, 08:52:17 AM »
Actually, Rhubarb is food for me..and medication.
I am into the holistic approach to health care, and rhubarb is very high on the anticancer list.
Especially rhubarb root.
Rhubarb nutritional facts before you add sugar....
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« Reply #24 on: December 10, 2008, 10:15:25 AM »
Like Andrew Zimmern says:  "If it looks good, eat it!"  My motto too.  That's what I like about the Travel Channel:  exotic places and very different foods that we wouldn't even consider as good.  I respect the fact that most people of other countries do not waste one part of an animal, but that it is cooked, preserved and eaten. 

I have a patch of my own rhubarb and look forward to it each spring.  It's a great spring tonic for me, and probably for many ancient people since time began who gathered whatever they could that was edible and delicious after a long winter.  I have eaten it raw many years ago as a little girl (I don't know how I did that  :o)  but prefer it in pie with strawberries and I cook it like applesauce as a side with a meal. 

Why get all technical about something and analyze the crap out of it.  People take all kinds of supplements and they aren't food, but the body utilizes them anyway.  If it doesn't taste good to you then don't eat it. 

Esther, I'm sure you have gooseberries in Michigan. My grandfather used to pick them and my grandmother would make a pie from them.  I've never tasted them myself but I know that many people who lived in Southern Ohio Appalachia did and still do harvest wild fruit when it's in season.  Probably a good case of using what's available and not being hungry.
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« Reply #25 on: December 10, 2008, 10:38:52 AM »
Whoah  : not food?   : hahaha,  lol lol that's a good one Karen.

Thanks for the reminder, I made some rhubarb, strawberry sauce last summer, and froze some. I'll get it out when I get home. Awesome on icecream. O0

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« Reply #26 on: December 10, 2008, 10:55:39 AM »
Joyce,

If you use rhubarb as medication, that's different from using it as food, and, as you are acutely aware, chemo is no picnic either.

As far as "good" rhubarb, my mother was a "world class" cook, and could have given lessons to Julia Childs, especially regarding gravy and pie crusts.  We grew rhubarb for all of my youth and had it as pie, sauce, preserves, and as myriad other preparations, all of which left me yearning for strawberries instead.  Regarding strawberries:  If you have to mix them with rhubarb to make the rhubarb palatable, screw the rhubarb and eat the strawberries. (Kind of like the old carp, pine board recipe.) 
As with everything else, there is no accounting for taste, but my taster (regarded as as gourmet by many) avoids rhubarb in any and all forms.  I much prefer red currant jelly instead (try to find that at your grocery store).
But then, the more folks who eat rhubarb, the more strawberries and currants for me!

Re:gooseberries:  They taste exactly like rhubarb. My dad loved them and grew them in Missouri (his native state) during the first ten years of his retirement but could not grow them (thankfully) in North Carolina as they are verboten here due to being secondary host to pine blister rust.  I remember his Welsh Terrier pulling gooseberies off the vines in Poplar Bluff, Mo. and raising her lips like she was snarling while chewing the sour little orbs.

If you like rhubarb and gooseberies, go for it, I will stick to strawberries, escargot and soft shell crabs.

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« Reply #27 on: December 10, 2008, 11:08:21 AM »

Rhubarb nutritional facts before you add sugar....


That's the real problem. You can add up the minuscule amount of nutrients in rhubarb and call it healthy, but it doesn't even come close to being a nutrient-dense food.
Keep in mind that I am an extremely biased and opinionated anti-sugar person. You already know that.  :) My anti-cancer diet is meat.

Some of the little problems with the chart above:

1. You would need to eat 3050 grams of it per day to reach a significant anti-inflammatory target, if in fact the "target" is a credible claim. Eat Mikey's T-Bone and you're there. ;)
2. The "glycemic load" is a bogus claim. Your pancreas still has to produce enough insulin to deal with the near teaspoon of sugar in the Rhubarb. Keeping in mind that the amount of sugar circulating in the entire bloodstream of the average human being is slightly less than one teaspoon. And that's before the additional added sugar.
3. It says it is a good source of magnesium when it is not. Nuts and seeds are great sources of magnesium.

On the plus side, it does contain a good deal of vitamin K, 45% DV (those numbers only represent the amount needed daily to prevent deficiency disease).

On the minus side, it needs huge amounts of sugar to make it palatable. Cancer cells need sugar. Don't feed them.

Mikey's T-Bone. Now THAT is food.

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People love watching Andrew eat strange, exotic food because we've forgotten that our ancestors ate that way as well. We had a much better variety of animal products available to us a hundred years ago than we do today.  

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« Reply #28 on: December 10, 2008, 11:38:50 AM »
Karen, I mostly use Rhubarb Root in a anti-cancer tea I make.
Haven't had much rhubarb since my dad was alive.

Yeah, I'm on the same diet as you too.  8)
People don't wanna learn that the sugars and carbs are what's killing them.

It's not the fats and meat. :no:
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« Reply #29 on: December 10, 2008, 11:46:22 AM »
So true. So what's in the tea? Are there other ingredients? I want to drink more tea.
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