Thanks everybody! I haven't been able to post much for various reasons, like I have been building a wood fired water heater for my green house. I'll post pics later. An interesting thing about the first pic is that James brydon got completely devoured by caterpillars, totally defoliated. While the mexicana cross plants on either side where barely touched. Oderata and alba heritage plants were attacked the most in all of my ponds. One of my Texas dawn beds for El Jefe. Mike.