Author Topic: Yasuhiro (Read 3976 times)

Craig · « **on:** August 08, 2009, 12:56:54 PM »

Here is one of the intersubgeneric crosses first pioneered by Dr. William Phillips. This one is named 'Yasuhiro' and developed by Yasuhiro Satou of Japan. It is a cross between N. gigantea and 'White Colorata'.

While I'm not 100% sure, I have reason to believe that it does produce seed. I plan to check for pollen as well, but the bees beat me to it today.<g>

Kat · « **Reply #1 on:** August 08, 2009, 12:58:26 PM »

ponderer · « **Reply #2 on:** August 08, 2009, 01:57:48 PM »

That is a true blue!

Joyce · « **Reply #3 on:** August 08, 2009, 03:14:17 PM »

That's outstanding!

Holldoll · « **Reply #4 on:** August 08, 2009, 03:53:04 PM »

What an amazing blue!

water_sprite · « **Reply #5 on:** August 08, 2009, 05:51:50 PM »

Love it!

Ky Kim · « **Reply #6 on:** August 08, 2009, 06:22:17 PM »

Outstanding

bunny56lbc · « **Reply #7 on:** August 08, 2009, 06:42:46 PM »

WOW , that is NICE

bonnie

Marie Fisher · « **Reply #8 on:** August 08, 2009, 06:52:18 PM »

Craig, knew you would duplicate that cross? Whatever happened to his plant? Last I heard
he couldn't propogate it in any way and had sent to Kit. I've not heard from William in
several years. Have you? Not even heard in round about way since my mother died I don't
go back to Miss. much. (His relatives and my relatives talk.) Sure hope your cross is
fertile. It is gorgeous!!!

Marie

Julles · « **Reply #9 on:** August 08, 2009, 06:58:53 PM »

THAT is BLUE. I wish that wishfull gardeners would stop calling purple flowers "blue" when they're not.

THAT is BLUE.

Junie · « **Reply #10 on:** August 08, 2009, 08:42:09 PM »

That is simply the most beautiful Lilly I have ever seen!!!!!

LynneNY · « **Reply #11 on:** August 08, 2009, 08:52:19 PM »

I cannot stop looking at this spectacular flower!
It's calling out to me - it is too pretty for words!

Craig · « **Reply #12 on:** August 10, 2009, 12:20:16 PM »

Hi Marie,

Yasuhiro is not one of mine....it came from Japan. I never got around to doing any B-A crosses. As for William Phillips, I really never was in his group of confidantes so rarely heard from him even when he was more active...unless ocassionally he wanted something.<g> I have no idea what he has been up to or what become of his plant.

maryvonne · « **Reply #13 on:** August 11, 2009, 04:20:40 PM »

Lovely lily. Beautiful colour.

Maryvonne

miguynmkoi · « **Reply #14 on:** August 11, 2009, 04:28:51 PM »

WOW! Beautiful blues and form!

Holldoll · « **Reply #15 on:** August 11, 2009, 05:28:07 PM »

Why are there not many blue lilies?

Craig · « **Reply #16 on:** August 12, 2009, 04:03:08 AM »

Here are pictures of the parents of 'Yasuhiro' and a first day bloom of the lily itself.

Holldoll...if you mean true blue and hold the purple. There are some.

Sunbeam56 · « **Reply #17 on:** August 12, 2009, 06:06:12 AM »

Wow!
Is it cold hardy?
I love the pink pollen stalks.

tracey_shafer · « **Reply #18 on:** August 12, 2009, 06:39:22 AM »

That is the most beautiful shade of blue I ever seen in a water lily.

Sean · « **Reply #19 on:** August 16, 2009, 04:11:40 PM »

Hey Craig,

If just one of these intersubgeneric crosses were to become mamplafied, you would have one of the fullest doubles ever, I assume better than Jonkolnee and possibly in a very true blue.

Cheers,
Sean

Craig · « **Reply #20 on:** August 16, 2009, 04:13:21 PM »

I was waiting to check the pollen before I replied....and it is fertile. Oddly so, actually. There are two distinct sizes that both germinate and a few in the mix seem to produce to pollen tubes, though one is abbreviated. Next bloom, I'll try to check if it is seed fertile as well. Maybe introduce it to the new beauty in the neighborhood...N. pulchella.<g>

But no....it is definitely a tropical and despite the Brachyceras influence, it doesn't seem to be the least bit cold tolerant. Or particularly easy to grow. Even the aquatic specialist at Kew Gardens refers to it as a PITA.<g>

louis · « **Reply #21 on:** August 16, 2009, 05:28:37 PM »

Stunning.

louis

jw · « **Reply #22 on:** August 16, 2009, 07:51:03 PM »

By gosh I think you've done it..................you are a lily genius.............those blues are bluer than the bluest skies in Seattle

kitfoxdrvr · « **Reply #23 on:** August 17, 2009, 08:03:47 AM »

Craig:

Did I hear you say you had some colchicine? Wondering if you have anything planned...

Steve

SueSTx · « **Reply #24 on:** August 17, 2009, 10:51:42 AM »

Now that IS blue

Craig · « **Reply #25 on:** August 17, 2009, 02:35:04 PM »

Colchicine? Perish the thought! Call me crazy, but as much as I like my lilies, I have this thing about needlessly handling know carcinogens, be it for preventing fungus on tubers or causing 'mitosis interruptus'. There are much smarter, safer ways. Boy, hope that doesn't come off sounding like a 'know it all'<g>

I am working on tetraploids, but the agent involved is much, much less toxic than colchicine, and yet has the same action. Problem is coming up with a proper concentration. I've tried the published rates and man have I killed some seedlings this year!<g> Gonna cut the strength and try again this week, but I have no plans to try it on Anecphya, there chromosome number is already in the stratosphere....maybe 228? But then again...what the hey, might not be a bad idea.<g>

kitfoxdrvr · « **Reply #26 on:** August 18, 2009, 06:52:48 AM »

Quote from: Craig on August 17, 2009, 02:35:04 PM

I am working on tetraploids, but the agent involved is much, much less toxic than colchicine, and yet has the same action. Problem is coming up with a proper concentration. I've tried the published rates and man have I killed some seedlings this year!<g> Gonna cut the strength and try again this week, but I have no plans to try it on Anecphya, there chromosome number is already in the stratosphere....maybe 228? But then again...what the hey, might not be a bad idea.<g>

I remembered you saying you were tinkering, and had not heard anything lately. I am not aware of anyone else working with lilies, so glad to see you are still trying.

We did some experiments with hostas and mums when I was in college using colchicine (this was 25 years ago, and the results were more weird than successful

), so this has always been of interest to me. Keep us updated if anything interesting "crops" up!

Steve

Craig · « **Reply #27 on:** August 18, 2009, 03:57:25 PM »

I'm hoping to see the fruits of my first attempt at inducing polyploidy soon. I had gathered all the chemical necessities together and was raring to go, when I realized I had forgotten one key ingredient...I hadn't set any seed pods.<g>

So I figured I would practice with the recipe on some Lotus seed I had...a species type named 'Russian Red'. Not to mention the see are a whole lot bigger and I could 'see' the stages I needed.<g> Anyway....that was June and the seedlings did seem to fit the description of successfully treated plants. I planted them out in a pond sometime in July and they have some chubby aerial leaves. I just hope they bloom before this season is over. Maybe it is the extended season, but it is not unusual here for a seedling to bloom the first year.

landey1230 · « **Reply #28 on:** August 18, 2009, 08:47:54 PM »

Oh my. It looks as though it is under a black light and it is glowing. Amazing.

Nassuvian · « **Reply #29 on:** September 08, 2009, 12:58:45 PM »

Quote from: Craig on August 16, 2009, 04:13:21 PM

I was waiting to check the pollen before I replied....and it is fertile. Oddly so, actually. There are two distinct sizes that both germinate and a few in the mix seem to produce to pollen tubes, though one is abbreviated. Next bloom, I'll try to check if it is seed fertile as well.

Hi Craig, my gigiantea x colorata and immutabilis x colorata hybrids both have significant amounts of non-deformed pollen that germinates quite readily but I haven't has any success in hybridizing them yet. I actually gave up after my first few attempts, using highly fertile lilies as parents, all failed.

I've used the pollen of both Brachyceras and Anecphya species lilies to pollinate the flowers but no seeds formed.
Self pollination also failed.

Perhaps you'll have better luck than I've had in my attempts.